{"id":112039,"date":"2023-04-12T12:08:48","date_gmt":"2023-04-12T16:08:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.sitata.com\/?p=112039"},"modified":"2023-04-14T10:05:38","modified_gmt":"2023-04-14T14:05:38","slug":"taking-ownership-of-your-own-safety-an-interview-with-kim-marsh","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sitata.com\/hu\/a-sajat-sajat-biztonsag-az-interju-kim-marsh-al\/","title":{"rendered":"Saj\u00e1t biztons\u00e1gunk felv\u00e1llal\u00e1sa - Interj\u00fa Kim Marsh-szal"},"content":{"rendered":"[et_pb_section admin_label=\"section\"]\n\t\t\t[et_pb_row admin_label=\"row\"]\n\t\t\t\t[et_pb_column type=\"4_4\u2033][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Text\"]\n<p>A mai vil\u00e1gban a biztons\u00e1g \u00e9s a v\u00e9delem mindennapi \u00e9let\u00fcnk kritikus elemei, \u00e9s felel\u0151ss\u00e9get kell v\u00e1llalnunk saj\u00e1t v\u00e9delm\u00fcnk\u00e9rt. Ak\u00e1r utazunk, ak\u00e1r nyilv\u00e1nos rendezv\u00e9nyeken vesz\u00fcnk r\u00e9szt, vagy egyszer\u0171en csak a szok\u00e1sos \u00e9let\u00fcnket \u00e9lj\u00fck, a lehets\u00e9ges kock\u00e1zatokkal val\u00f3 tiszt\u00e1ban lev\u00e9s \u00e9s a sz\u00fcks\u00e9ges l\u00e9p\u00e9sek megt\u00e9tele seg\u00edthet abban, hogy biztons\u00e1gban maradjunk. Ez\u00e9rt is \u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcnk annak, hogy lehet\u0151s\u00e9g\u00fcnk ny\u00edlt Kim Marsh-szal, a Marsh LLC tulajdonos\u00e1val besz\u00e9lgetni arr\u00f3l, hogyan v\u00e9dhetj\u00fck meg jobban magunkat \u00e9s k\u00f6z\u00f6ss\u00e9geinket.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kim Marsh a biztons\u00e1gi \u00e9s v\u00e9delmi iparnak szentelte karrierj\u00e9t, t\u00f6bb mint 40 \u00e9ves tapasztalattal a szakm\u00e1ban.  \u0150 a Marsh, LLC tulajdonosa, aki biztons\u00e1gi tan\u00e1csad\u00e1ssal foglalkozik. Ebben a szerepk\u00f6rben szorosan egy\u00fcttm\u0171k\u00f6dik az \u00fcgyfelekkel, besz\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00f3kkal \u00e9s integr\u00e1torokkal, hogy \u00e1tfog\u00f3 akt\u00edv fenyegetetts\u00e9gi programokat \u00e9s megold\u00e1sokat ny\u00fajtson.<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol>\n<li><strong>\u00cdrja le eddigi \u00fatj\u00e1t a biztons\u00e1gi \u00e9s v\u00e9delmi \u00e1gazatban. Mikor kezdte? <\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li>1978-ban kezdtem a biztons\u00e1gi iparban, csak egy ideiglenes tin\u00e9dzser munkak\u00e9nt, miel\u0151tt f\u0151iskol\u00e1ra mentem volna.  Egy kis csal\u00e1di riaszt\u00f3c\u00e9gn\u00e9l kezdtem, amely telep\u00edt\u00e9seket v\u00e9gzett, \u00e9n pedig a megfigyel\u0151\u00e1llom\u00e1son dolgoztam.  Megfigyeltem a riaszt\u00e1sokat, diszp\u00e9cseltem riaszt\u00e1sok eset\u00e9n, kezeltem szerz\u0151d\u00e9seket \u00e9s kintl\u00e9v\u0151s\u00e9geket, kezeltem a kintl\u00e9v\u0151s\u00e9geket, terveztem \u00e9s \u00e9rt\u00e9kes\u00edtettem rendszereket, megtanultam a projektmenedzsmentet, alkatr\u00e9szrendel\u00e9st, nagyj\u00e1b\u00f3l mindent csin\u00e1ltam.  Vicces, telep\u00edtettem riaszt\u00f3rendszereket l\u00f3ist\u00e1ll\u00f3kba, \u00e9s megk\u00e9rtek, hogy tartsam t\u00e1vol a vadon \u00e9l\u0151 bivalybirk\u00e1kat att\u00f3l, hogy \u00e1tl\u00e9pj\u00e9k az \u00e1llamhat\u00e1rt Nevad\u00e1b\u00f3l a szomsz\u00e9dos \u00e1llamokba. Voltam m\u00e1r k\u00e9pes egy\u00fcttm\u0171k\u00f6dni lengyel, sk\u00f3t \u00e9s ausztr\u00e1l \u00fcgyfelekkel - mindannyian ugyanazon a telefonh\u00edv\u00e1son kereszt\u00fcl koordin\u00e1lt\u00e1k a projekteket.  T\u00f6bb mint 40 \u00e9ve vagyok az elektronikus biztons\u00e1gi iparban, a COVID alatt munkan\u00e9lk\u00fcliv\u00e9 v\u00e1ltam.  Nagyon \u00f6r\u00fcl\u00f6k, hogy ink\u00e1bb az ipar\u00e1g fizikai biztons\u00e1gi oldal\u00e1n dolgozhatok, taktikailag k\u00e9pzett v\u00e1laszad\u00f3k t\u00e1mogat\u00e1s\u00e1val.  M\u00e9g mindig tanulom az \u00fczlet fizikai oldal\u00e1t, de az elektronikus oldalr\u00f3l betekint\u00e9ssel tudom t\u00e1mogatni partnereimet, \u00e9s ez mindannyiunk sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra el\u0151ny\u00f6s.<br><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Tudna p\u00e9ld\u00e1t mondani egy olyan pillanatra, amikor biztons\u00e1gi vagy v\u00e9delmi v\u00e1ls\u00e1ghelyzetet kellett kezelnie, \u00e9s hogyan enyh\u00edtette azt?<\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li>\u0150szint\u00e9n sz\u00f3lva, nagyon szerencs\u00e9s voltam, \u00e9s nem volt olyan probl\u00e9ma, amit szem\u00e9lyesen kellett volna kezelnem.  \"M\u00e9rn\u00f6ki elm\u00e9vel\" rendelkezem, \u00e9s a helyzeteket a bek\u00f6vetkez\u00e9s\u00fck ut\u00e1n vizsg\u00e1lom meg, hogy mit lehetett volna m\u00e1sk\u00e9pp csin\u00e1lni, hogy megv\u00e1ltoztassuk a v\u00e9geredm\u00e9nyt.  Nem vagyok szak\u00e9rt\u0151je a taktikai reag\u00e1l\u00e1snak vagy a fizikai biztons\u00e1gnak.  Kicsit m\u00e1sk\u00e9pp n\u00e9zem a dolgokat, mint ezek a szem\u00e9lyek.  Sok okos fizikai biztons\u00e1ggal foglalkoz\u00f3 szem\u00e9lyt\u0151l tanulok, hogy meg\u00e9rtsem, honnan indulnak a k\u00e9pz\u00e9s\u00fckkel \u00e9s a perspekt\u00edv\u00e1ikkal, majd a \"mindennapi emberek\" gondolatait hozom be, hogy jobban ki tudjuk csiszolni a k\u00e9pz\u00e9si programjainkat \u00e9s a besz\u00e9lget\u00e9seinket.  Szeretn\u00e9m, ha a \"biztons\u00e1g\" k\u00e9nyelmesebb fogalom lenne a nagyk\u00f6z\u00f6ns\u00e9g sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra, hogy r\u00e9szt vegyenek benne, \u00e9s felel\u0151ss\u00e9get v\u00e1llaljanak saj\u00e1t biztons\u00e1guk\u00e9rt.<br><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>A fegyveres er\u0151szak az egyik legfontosabb kort\u00e1rs probl\u00e9ma. Milyen megk\u00f6zel\u00edt\u00e9ssel k\u00edv\u00e1n foglalkozni vele?<\/strong> \n\n\n\n\n<ul>\n<li>\u00dagy v\u00e9lem, a megel\u0151z\u00e9ssel kell kezden\u00fcnk.  K\u00e9pesnek kell lenn\u00fcnk arra, hogy bejelent\u00e9st tegy\u00fcnk egy biztons\u00e1gi agg\u00e1lyr\u00f3l, \u00e9s tudnunk kell, hogy a bejelent\u00e9ssel foglalkozni fognak azok az emberek, akik v\u00e1ltoztatni tudnak a helyzeten, \u00e9s elsz\u00e1moltathat\u00f3ak.  Egy olyan c\u00e9ggel dolgozom, amelynek a szoftvere fogadja a jelent\u00e9st, \u00e9s tov\u00e1bb\u00edtja azt a megfelel\u0151 szervezethez vagy \u00fcgyn\u00f6ks\u00e9ghez (bels\u0151 - HR, vezet\u0151s\u00e9g, jogi oszt\u00e1ly stb. \/ k\u00fcls\u0151 - szoci\u00e1lis szolg\u00e1ltat\u00e1sok, vall\u00e1si t\u00e1mogat\u00e1s, b\u0171n\u00fcld\u00f6z\u00e9s stb.), hogy k\u00f6zbel\u00e9phessenek \u00e9s megszak\u00edthass\u00e1k a ciklust, miel\u0151tt incidensre ker\u00fclne sor.  Ez egy \"nyomon k\u00f6vet\u00e9si nyilv\u00e1ntart\u00e1st\" is tartalmaz, hogy az \u00e9rdekelt felek \"faluj\u00e1ban\" senki ne maradjon teljes k\u00e9p n\u00e9lk\u00fcl az \u00e9rintett szem\u00e9lyr\u0151l - ez lehet\u0151v\u00e9 teszi a csoport sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra a jobb d\u00f6nt\u00e9shozatalt.  N\u00e9zze meg a Marjory Stoneman Douglass l\u00f6v\u00f6ld\u00f6z\u00e9st - annyi interakci\u00f3 volt a ment\u00e1lis eg\u00e9szs\u00e9g\u00fcgyi szolg\u00e1latokkal \u00e9s m\u00e1sokkal, de senki sem tudott a t\u00f6bbi interakci\u00f3r\u00f3l.  M\u00e1s d\u00f6nt\u00e9st hoztak volna a l\u00f6v\u00f6ld\u00f6z\u0151 kezel\u00e9s\u00e9r\u0151l, ha t\u00f6bb embernek lett volna teljes k\u00e9pe r\u00f3la.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>A megel\u0151z\u00e9s \u00e9s a jelent\u00e9st\u00e9tel mellett hiszek a kult\u00fara megv\u00e1ltoztat\u00e1s\u00e1ban - az emberek minden nap nagyobb felel\u0151ss\u00e9get v\u00e1llalnak saj\u00e1t biztons\u00e1guk\u00e9rt \u00e9s biztons\u00e1gtudatoss\u00e1guk\u00e9rt.  Igen, ehhez oktat\u00e1sra \u00e9s felk\u00e9sz\u00edt\u00e9sre lehet sz\u00fcks\u00e9g, de amint a mindennapi ember felismeri, hogy mi a fenyeget\u00e9s, cselekedhet az\u00e1ltal, hogy jelenti az aggodalmat, vagy mentor\u00e1lhatja az embereket, hogy a biztons\u00e1g \u00e9s a v\u00e9delem szeker\u00e9re sz\u00e1lljon - biztons\u00e1gi \u0151r\u00f6ket hozva l\u00e9tre, ami a biztons\u00e1gi csapat sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra er\u0151t\u00f6bbletet jelent.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul>\n<li>Term\u00e9szetesen mindig sz\u00fcks\u00e9g\u00fcnk lesz egy kik\u00e9pzett v\u00e1laszcsapatra - a helysz\u00edni szem\u00e9lyzet az igazi els\u0151 v\u00e1laszad\u00f3k egy akt\u00edv fenyegetetts\u00e9gi helyzetben.  Amennyiben ezek a v\u00e1laszad\u00f3k megfelelnek a k\u00e9pz\u00e9si \u00e9s k\u00e9pes\u00edt\u00e9si k\u00f6vetelm\u00e9nyeknek, ahelyett, hogy fegyvert hordan\u00e1nak magukn\u00e1l, biztons\u00e1gos \u00e9s v\u00e9dett m\u00f3don kell t\u00e1rolniuk a fegyvereket (ak\u00e1r hal\u00e1los, ak\u00e1r nem hal\u00e1los).  Itt j\u00f6n a k\u00e9pbe a Grav IT term\u00e9ke, az A.S.R.S.- Active Shooter Response System.  Az \u00f6nv\u00e9delmi eszk\u00f6zt a nagy biztons\u00e1g\u00fa, kett\u0151s hiteles\u00edt\u00e9s\u0171 (regisztr\u00e1lt prox \u00e9s ujjlenyomat) p\u00e1nc\u00e9lteremben t\u00e1rolj\u00e1k.  Hozz\u00e1f\u00e9r\u00e9s eset\u00e9n a p\u00e1nc\u00e9lterem automatikusan \u00e9rtes\u00edt\u00e9st k\u00fcld a regisztr\u00e1lt v\u00e1laszad\u00f3knak.  A p\u00e1nc\u00e9lteremhez hozz\u00e1f\u00e9r\u0151 szem\u00e9lyek a b\u0171n\u00fcld\u00f6z\u0151 szervekn\u00e9l k\u00e9pz\u00e9st kaptak, \u00e9s a v\u00e1laszad\u00f3k ismerik \u0151ket.  Ez egy csapatterv, amely az NFPA3000, az NFPA \u00e1ltal el\u0151sz\u00f6r 2018-ban kiadott, friss\u00edt\u00e9sekkel kieg\u00e9sz\u00edtett NFPA3000, az akt\u00edv l\u00f6v\u00f6ld\u00f6z\u0151\/ellens\u00e9ges esem\u00e9nyre val\u00f3 reag\u00e1l\u00e1sra vonatkoz\u00f3 szabv\u00e1nyon alapul.&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Akkor van \u00e9rtelme a t\u00f6bbi elektronikus technol\u00f3gia bevezet\u00e9s\u00e9nek - a bel\u00e9ptet\u0151 rendszert \"terv szerint\" fogj\u00e1k haszn\u00e1lni, ahelyett, hogy a funkci\u00f3kat kikapcsoln\u00e1k, mert zavar\u00f3ak (vagy nem ker\u00fcln\u00e9k meg a szikl\u00e1kkal, hogy a k\u00e9nyelem \u00e9rdek\u00e9ben az ajt\u00f3kat kit\u00e1massz\u00e1k).  A videorendszerek a leg\u00fajabb technol\u00f3gi\u00e1jukkal ker\u00fclhetnek a j\u00e1t\u00e9kba, ahelyett, hogy t\u00f6rv\u00e9nysz\u00e9ki eszk\u00f6zk\u00e9nt haszn\u00e1ln\u00e1k \u0151ket.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Term\u00e9szetesen ennek a m\u00f3dszernek illeszkednie kell annak a l\u00e9tes\u00edtm\u00e9nynek a biztons\u00e1gi \u00e9s v\u00e9delmi kult\u00far\u00e1j\u00e1hoz, ahol ezt a m\u00f3dszert alkalmazz\u00e1k.  A legfels\u0151bb vezet\u0151kt\u0151l kezdve a rangl\u00e9tr\u00e1n \u00e1t a beosztottakig be kell, hogy \u00e9p\u00fclj\u00f6n a rendszer. Ha nincs elk\u00f6telezetts\u00e9g, akkor a biztons\u00e1g k\u00e9nyelmetlen lesz, \u00e9s a status quo nem v\u00e1ltozik.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<ol start=\"4\">\n<li><strong>Milyen szerepet j\u00e1tszik a technol\u00f3gia az \u00d6n biztons\u00e1gi \u00e9s v\u00e9delmi terv\u00e9ben?<\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li>A technol\u00f3gia a biztons\u00e1gi \u00e9s v\u00e9delmi kult\u00fara kialak\u00edt\u00e1sa ut\u00e1n k\u00f6vetkezik.  Mint fentebb eml\u00edtett\u00fck, ha senki sem fogja k\u00f6vetni a biztons\u00e1gi \u00e9s v\u00e9delmi politik\u00e1t, akkor a technol\u00f3gia kellemetlenn\u00e9 v\u00e1lik a \"hamis riaszt\u00e1sokkal\" (amelyek val\u00f3j\u00e1ban nem is hamisak, ugye?), \u00e9s a technol\u00f3gia nem haszn\u00e1lja ki teljes potenci\u00e1lj\u00e1t.  Ha a biztons\u00e1gi \u00e9s v\u00e9delmi kult\u00fara mag\u00e1ban foglalja annak elmagyar\u00e1z\u00e1s\u00e1t, hogy \"mi\u00e9rt\" nem lehet egy ajt\u00f3t kinyitni stb., \u00e9s az emberek k\u00f6vetik a protokollokat, akkor a technol\u00f3gia a terv szerves r\u00e9sz\u00e9t k\u00e9pezi.&nbsp;<br><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Amikor \u00d6n utazik, mi szerepel az \u00d6n biztons\u00e1gi \u00e9s v\u00e9delmi list\u00e1j\u00e1n?<\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li>Amikor utazom, j\u00f3l akarom \u00e9rezni magam a k\u00f6rnyezetben, ahov\u00e1 megyek.  N\u0151k\u00e9nt igyekszem meggy\u0151z\u0151dni arr\u00f3l, hogy ismerem az \u00fatvonalakat, \u00e9s megpr\u00f3b\u00e1lom figyelembe venni, hogy az \u00fatvonal milyen ter\u00fcletekre vezethet, \u00e9s ennek megfelel\u0151en tervezek.  Ker\u00fcl\u00f6m a sok \u00e9kszer visel\u00e9s\u00e9t, \u00e9s biztons\u00e1gba helyezem a k\u00e9szp\u00e9nzemet \u00e9s a hitelk\u00e1rty\u00e1imat.  A t\u00e1sk\u00e1mat pedig mindig becsukva \u00e9s k\u00f6zel tartom magamhoz.  Nem iszom, \u00e9s tudatosan nem fogadok el italt egy idegent\u0151l.  Amikor a b\u00e9relt aut\u00f3mhoz megyek, mindig k\u00e9zn\u00e9l van a kulcsom, ahelyett, hogy a t\u00e1sk\u00e1mban kotor\u00e1szn\u00e9k (van n\u00e1lam egy karabineres klipsz, amivel a t\u00e1sk\u00e1mba cs\u00edptetem, hogy k\u00f6nnyen megtal\u00e1ljam!), \u00e9s megosztom a terveimet a f\u00e9rjemmel \u00e9s\/vagy a munkat\u00e1rsaimmal, hogy valaki tudja, hol \u00e9s mikor kell lennem.  \u00c9s gyakran bejelentkezem.<br><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>\u00dagy v\u00e9lem, hogy az inform\u00e1ci\u00f3-t\u00falterhel\u00e9s idej\u00e9t \u00e9lj\u00fck. Hogyan tudsz l\u00e9p\u00e9st tartani a legfrissebb inform\u00e1ci\u00f3kkal?<\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li>Ez egy nagyszer\u0171 k\u00e9rd\u00e9s, \u00e9s igazad van, annyi inform\u00e1ci\u00f3!  Mindent megteszek, hogy l\u00e9p\u00e9st tartsak, de azt is tudom, hogy el kell t\u00e1volodnom a technol\u00f3gi\u00e1t\u00f3l \u00e9s a h\u00edrek t\u00falterhelts\u00e9g\u00e9t\u0151l.  Pr\u00f3b\u00e1lok h\u00e9tv\u00e9g\u00e9n kikapcsolni, bele\u00e9rtve a k\u00f6z\u00f6ss\u00e9gi m\u00e9dia korl\u00e1toz\u00e1s\u00e1t.  Megv\u00e1logatom a forr\u00e1sokat, ahonnan a friss\u00edt\u00e9seket \u00e9s a technol\u00f3giai h\u00edreket kapom, a megb\u00edzhat\u00f3 forr\u00e1sokb\u00f3l sz\u00e1rmaz\u00f3 adatokat keresem, \u00e9s elker\u00fcl\u00f6m a megb\u00edzhatatlan forr\u00e1sokb\u00f3l sz\u00e1rmaz\u00f3 hype-ot \u00e9s a hars\u00e1nys\u00e1got. Tudom, hogy kutat\u00e1st kell v\u00e9geznem, miel\u0151tt term\u00e9keket \u00e9s szolg\u00e1ltat\u00e1sokat osztok meg a h\u00e1l\u00f3zatommal.  Nemcsak az \u00e9n h\u00edrnevemr\u0151l van sz\u00f3, hanem a c\u00e9gemr\u0151l is!<br><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Mi a v\u00e9lem\u00e9nye a szervezetek\/munkahelyek szerep\u00e9r\u0151l a munkav\u00e1llal\u00f3ikkal szembeni gondoss\u00e1gi k\u00f6telezetts\u00e9geik betart\u00e1s\u00e1ban?<\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li>A gondoss\u00e1gi k\u00f6telezetts\u00e9get figyelembe kell venni a k\u00f6vetkez\u0151 esetekben <em>minden<\/em> l\u00e9tes\u00edtm\u00e9ny, \u00e1llami \u00e9s mag\u00e1n.  Mint ismeretes, a szervezetek (\u00e9s az emberek) felel\u0151ss\u00e9ge, hogy megtegyenek minden \"\u00e9sszer\u0171 int\u00e9zked\u00e9st, amely sz\u00fcks\u00e9ges az olyan tev\u00e9kenys\u00e9gek megakad\u00e1lyoz\u00e1s\u00e1hoz, amelyek m\u00e1s szem\u00e9lyeknek \u00e9s\/vagy tulajdonuknak k\u00e1rt okozhatnak\".  Nemr\u00e9g l\u00e1ttunk egy $27B els\u0151 pert, amelyet az Uvalde-i l\u00f6v\u00f6ld\u00f6z\u00e9s t\u00fal\u00e9l\u0151i ny\u00fajtottak be az iskolai k\u00f6rzet, a b\u0171n\u00fcld\u00f6z\u0151 szervek \u00e9s m\u00e1sok ellen.  \u00dagy v\u00e9lem, hogy a szervezeteknek \u00e9s a munkahelyeknek fel kell hegyezni\u00fck a f\u00fcl\u00fcket erre, \u00e9s alaposabban meg kell vizsg\u00e1lniuk a biztons\u00e1gi \u00e9s v\u00e9delmi terveiket - nem vagyok benne biztos, hogy a biztos\u00edt\u00f3t\u00e1rsas\u00e1gok meddig fogadnak el egy f\u00e9lsz\u00edv\u0171 biztons\u00e1gi tervet, amelyet meg\u00edrnak \u00e9s a polcra tesznek, hogy soha t\u00f6bb\u00e9 ne n\u00e9zzenek r\u00e1. A biztons\u00e1gi vezet\u0151knek k\u00e9pz\u00e9st kell tartaniuk (nem csak az eredeti FBI-vide\u00f3 \"Fuss, b\u00fajj, k\u00fczdj\" bemutat\u00e1s\u00e1val), amely megtan\u00edtja az alkalmazottakat a biztons\u00e1gi \u00e9s v\u00e9delmi kult\u00far\u00e1ra.&nbsp;<br><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Tal\u00e1lkoztam<strong> #NeverLetItHavenHappenHere<\/strong> a k\u00f6z\u00f6ss\u00e9gi m\u00e9di\u00e1ban k\u00f6zz\u00e9tett bejegyz\u00e9seidben. Ki tudn\u00e1 fejteni?\n<ul>\n<li><strong>#NeverLetItItHappenHere az \u00e9n gy\u00fclekez\u00e9si ki\u00e1lt\u00e1som<\/strong>- \u00dagy v\u00e9lem, hogy neked, nekem \u00e9s az \u00f6sszes h\u00e9tk\u00f6znapi embernek kezdem\u00e9nyeznie kell, \u00e9s felel\u0151ss\u00e9get kell v\u00e1llalnunk az\u00e9rt, hogy tiszt\u00e1ban legy\u00fcnk a k\u00f6rnyezet\u00fcnkkel, tiszt\u00e1ban legy\u00fcnk m\u00e1s emberekkel, \u00e9s hajland\u00f3ak legy\u00fcnk jelenteni az aggodalmakat.  Minden interj\u00fan egy l\u00f6v\u00f6ld\u00f6z\u0151s incidens ut\u00e1n azt hallani, hogy valaki azt mondja: \"Soha nem gondoltam volna, hogy ez itt megt\u00f6rt\u00e9nhet\".  Minden egyes l\u00f6v\u00f6ld\u00f6z\u0151s esem\u00e9nynek volt valamilyen \"v\u00f6r\u00f6s z\u00e1szl\u00f3s\" jelz\u0151je az esem\u00e9nyt megel\u0151z\u0151en, miel\u0151tt az esem\u00e9ny bek\u00f6vetkezett volna.  Ha felel\u0151ss\u00e9get v\u00e1llalunk a biztons\u00e1gunk\u00e9rt \u00e9s a v\u00e9delem\u00e9rt, ha jelentj\u00fck az aggodalmainkat, ha b\u00edzunk abban, hogy ha jelentj\u00fck, int\u00e9zkedni fognak, akkor megv\u00e1ltoztathatjuk a narrat\u00edv\u00e1t.  \u00c9s k\u00e9pess\u00e9geinknek megfelel\u0151en kell k\u00e9pezn\u00fcnk magunkat.  Nem mindenki lesz taktikailag k\u00e9pzett \u00e9s k\u00e9pes arra, hogy kioltsa egy m\u00e1sik ember \u00e9let\u00e9t.  De mindannyiunknak lehet \u00e9s kell is \"strat\u00e9giai\" k\u00e9pz\u00e9st kapnunk - tudjuk, hogyan kell elb\u00fajni (nem az asztal al\u00e1!), tudjuk, hogyan kell menek\u00fclni (\u00e9s hov\u00e1!), tudjuk, hogyan kell harcolni.  \u00c9s ami nagyon fontos, vegy\u00fcnk r\u00e9szt egy \u00fajra\u00e9leszt\u00e9si tanfolyamon, tudnunk kell, hogyan kell haszn\u00e1lni az AED-et (\u00e9s hol tal\u00e1lhat\u00f3!), \u00e9s meg kell tanulnunk a v\u00e9rz\u00e9s meg\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00e1s\u00e1t.  Ezek a k\u00e9szs\u00e9gek nemcsak a munkahely\u00e9n, hanem a szolg\u00e1laton k\u00edv\u00fcli \u00e9let\u00e9ben is seg\u00edtenek.  Hiszem, hogy ezek a k\u00e9szs\u00e9gek \u00e9leteket mentenek \u00e9s k\u00fcl\u00f6nbs\u00e9get tesznek.<br><br><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>Kim, ez egy leny\u0171g\u00f6z\u0151 \u00fcl\u00e9s volt. K\u00f6sz\u00f6n\u00f6m, hogy csatlakozt\u00e1l.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Kim sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra megtiszteltet\u00e9s, hogy beker\u00fclt a&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/aspppro.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Akt\u00edv l\u00f6v\u00f6ld\u00f6z\u00e9s megel\u0151z\u00e9si program (ASPP)<\/a>, a fenyegetetts\u00e9gi programok aranysz\u00ednvonal\u00e1nak megteremt\u00e9se \u00fcgyfeleink biztons\u00e1gi \u00e9s v\u00e9delmi terveihez.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Kim szenved\u00e9lyesen rajong az \u00e9letment\u00e9s\u00e9rt, \u00e9s elk\u00f6telezett az oktat\u00e1s, az egy\u00fcttm\u0171k\u00f6d\u00e9s \u00e9s a refer\u00e1l\u00e1s mellett, hogy seg\u00edtsen az int\u00e9zm\u00e9nyeknek felk\u00e9sz\u00fclni a kritikus esem\u00e9nyekre \u00e9s reag\u00e1lni r\u00e1juk.  Az elektronikus biztons\u00e1g ter\u00fclet\u00e9n szerzett sz\u00e9lesk\u00f6r\u0171 tapasztalata \u00e9s az \u00fcgyfelei ir\u00e1nti elk\u00f6telezetts\u00e9ge megb\u00edzhat\u00f3 partnerr\u00e9 teszi \u0151t az ipar\u00e1gban.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><br><br><\/p>\n[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column]\n\t\t\t[\/et_pb_row]\n\t\t[\/et_pb_section]","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A mai vil\u00e1gban a biztons\u00e1g \u00e9s a v\u00e9delem mindennapi \u00e9let\u00fcnk kritikus elemei, \u00e9s felel\u0151ss\u00e9get kell v\u00e1llalnunk saj\u00e1t v\u00e9delm\u00fcnk\u00e9rt. Ak\u00e1r utazunk, ak\u00e1r nyilv\u00e1nos rendezv\u00e9nyeken vesz\u00fcnk r\u00e9szt, vagy egyszer\u0171en csak a szok\u00e1sos \u00e9let\u00fcnket \u00e9lj\u00fck, a lehets\u00e9ges kock\u00e1zatokkal val\u00f3 tiszt\u00e1ban lev\u00e9s \u00e9s a sz\u00fcks\u00e9ges l\u00e9p\u00e9sek megt\u00e9tele seg\u00edthet abban, hogy biztons\u00e1gban maradjunk. Ez\u00e9rt \u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcnk, hogy [...]<\/p>","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":112065,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"on","_et_pb_old_content":"<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>In today's world, safety and security are critical components of our daily lives, and we must take accountability for our own protection. Whether travelling, participating in public events, or simply going about our regular lives, being aware of potential risks and taking the required steps can help us stay safe. That's why we are thrilled to have the opportunity to speak with Kim Marsh, owner of Marsh LLC, about how we can better safeguard ourselves and our communities.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Kim Marsh has dedicated her career to the safety and security industry, with over 40 years of experience in the field.&nbsp; She is the owner of Marsh, LLC, working in security consulting. In this role she works closely with clients, vendors, and integrators to provide comprehensive active threat programs and solutions.<br><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:list {\"ordered\":true} -->\n<ol><!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li><strong>Describe your journey in the safety and security industry so far. When did you start? <\/strong><!-- wp:list -->\n<ul><!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li>I started in the security industry in 1978, just a temporary teenager job before going to college.&nbsp; I started in a small, family-owned alarm company who did installations, and I was in the monitoring station.&nbsp; I\u2019ve monitored alarms, dispatched on alarms, managed contracts and accounts receivables, managed accounts payables,&nbsp; engineered and sold systems, learned project management, parts ordering, I\u2019ve pretty much done it all.&nbsp; Funny, I\u2019ve installed alarm systems in horse barns and I\u2019ve been asked to keep the wild bighorn sheep from crossing state lines out of Nevada to neighboring states. I\u2019ve been able to work with customers in Poland, Scotland, Australia- all on the same telephone call to coordinate projects.&nbsp; With over 40 years in the electronic security industry, I became unemployed during COVID.&nbsp; I am very happy to be working in more of the physical security side of the industry, supporting tactically trained responders.&nbsp; I\u2019m still learning the physical side of the business, but I am able to support my partners with insights on the electronic side and it is a win-win for all of us.<br><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item --><\/ul>\n<!-- \/wp:list --><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item -->\n\n<!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li><strong>Can you give an example of a moment when you had to deal with a safety or security crisis and how did you mitigate it?<\/strong><!-- wp:list -->\n<ul><!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li>Honestly, I\u2019ve been very lucky and not had an issue that I\u2019ve had to manage personally.&nbsp; I have an \u201cengineer\u2019s mind\u201d and I look at situations after they have occurred to see what could have been done differently to change the outcome.&nbsp; I am not an expert at tactical response or physical security.&nbsp; I look at things a little differently than these individuals.&nbsp; I have been learning from many astute physical security individuals to understand where they lead from with their training and perspectives, and then I bring in my \u201cevery day people\u201d thoughts to better hone our training programs and conversations.&nbsp; I want to make \u201csecurity\u201d a more comfortable concept to the general public so they will take part and take ownership of their own safety.<br><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item --><\/ul>\n<!-- \/wp:list --><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item -->\n\n<!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li><strong>Gun Violence is one of the major contemporary issues. What will be your approach to deal with it?<\/strong> \n\n\n\n<!-- wp:list -->\n<ul><!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li>I believe we need to start with Prevention.&nbsp; We need to be able to make a report of a security concern and know that report is going to be addressed, by the people who can make a difference, and have accountability.&nbsp; I work with a company who\u2019s software takes a report and directs it to the entity or agency (Internal- HR, management, Legal, etc \/ External- social services, religious support, law enforcement, etc) so they can step in and interrupt the cycle before an incident occurs.&nbsp; It also includes a \u201ctrack record\u201d so no one in the \u201cvillage\u201d of interested parties is left without a complete picture of the person of concern- this allows for better decision making by the group.&nbsp; Look at the Marjory Stoneman Douglass shooting- so many interactions with mental health services and others, but no one knew of the other interactions.&nbsp; A different decision on how to manage the shooter would have been made if more people had a complete picture of him.<\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item -->\n\n<!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li>Along with Prevention and reporting, I believe in changing the culture \u2013 every day people taking more      responsibility for their own safety and security awareness.&nbsp; Yes, this may require education and coaching, but once the every day person recognizes what a threat is, they can take action by reporting the concern or mentoring to get all people on the safety and security bandwagon- creating Security Sentinels, which is a force multiplier for the security team.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item --><\/ul>\n<!-- \/wp:list -->\n\n<!-- wp:list -->\n<ul><!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li>Of course, we will always need a trained response team- the personnel on-site are the real first responders in an active threat situation.&nbsp; Should those responders meet the training and certification requirements, instead of carrying a weapon on their person, they need a safe and secure way to store those weapons (either lethal or non-lethal).&nbsp; This is where Grav IT\u2019s product, the A.S.R.S.- Active Shooter Response System comes to play.&nbsp; The self-defense tool is stored inside the high security, dual authentication (enrolled prox and fingerprint) vault.&nbsp; When accessed the vault sends out a notification to enrolled responders automatically.&nbsp; Any individuals accessing the vaults will have trained with law enforcement and be known to responders.&nbsp; It\u2019s a Team Plan, based on NFPA3000, the Standard for an Active Shooter\/Hostile Event Response, first released in 2018 by the NFPA with updates.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item -->\n\n<!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li>Then it makes sense to bring in the other electronic technology- access control will be used \u201cas designed\u201d instead of having features turned off because they are a nuisance (or not bypassed with rocks to prop doors for convenience).&nbsp; Video systems can come into play with their latest technology instead of being used as forensic tools.<\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item -->\n\n<!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li>Of course, this method needs to fit the safety and security culture of the facility where it is practiced.&nbsp; There must be buy-in from the very top through the ranks. If there is no commitment, then security becomes inconvenient, and the status quo does not change.<\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item --><\/ul>\n<!-- \/wp:list --><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item --><\/ol>\n<!-- \/wp:list -->\n\n<!-- wp:list {\"ordered\":true,\"start\":4} -->\n<ol start=\"4\"><!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li><strong>What part does technology play in your safety and security plan?<\/strong><!-- wp:list -->\n<ul><!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li>Technology comes after creating the safety and security culture.&nbsp; As mentioned above, if no one is going to follow the safety and security policy, then the technology becomes inconvenient with \u201cfalse alarms\u201d (that aren\u2019t really false, are they?) and the technology stops being used for it\u2019s full potential.&nbsp; When the safety and security culture includes explaining the \u201cwhy\u201d a door can\u2019t be propped open, etc, and people follow the protocols, technology is an integral part of the plan.&nbsp;<br><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item --><\/ul>\n<!-- \/wp:list --><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item -->\n\n<!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li><strong>When you travel, what is on your checklist regarding your safety and security?<\/strong><!-- wp:list -->\n<ul><!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li>When I travel, I want to feel comfortable in the surroundings of where I am going.&nbsp; As a woman, I try to make sure I know the routes and try to take into consideration the areas that route may take me and plan accordingly.&nbsp; I avoid wearing a lot of jewelry and secure my cash and credit cards.&nbsp; And I keep my purse zipped up and close to me.&nbsp; I don\u2019t drink, and I am conscious to not accept drinks from a stranger.&nbsp; When going to my rental car, I always have my keys in hand instead of digging in my purse (I carry a carabiner clip with me to clip them inside my purse so I can locate them easily!), and I share my plans with my husband and\/or co-workers, so someone knows where I am supposed to be and when.&nbsp; And I check in often.<br><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item --><\/ul>\n<!-- \/wp:list --><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item -->\n\n<!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li><strong>I believe that we are living in the times of Information Overload. How do you keep up with the most recent information?<\/strong><!-- wp:list -->\n<ul><!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li>That\u2019s a great question and you are correct, so much information!&nbsp; I do my best to keep up, but I also know I have to step away from technology and news overload.&nbsp; I try to shut down on weekends, to include limiting social media.&nbsp; I am selective about the sources where I get my updates and tech news, seeking data from my trusted resources and avoiding hype and bluster from unreliable sources. I know I have to do my research before I share products and services with my network.&nbsp; It\u2019s not just my reputation, but my company\u2019s!<br><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item --><\/ul>\n<!-- \/wp:list --><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item -->\n\n<!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li><strong>What are your thoughts on the role of organizations\/workplaces to maintain their duty of care obligations towards their employees?<\/strong><!-- wp:list -->\n<ul><!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li>Duty of Care needs to be taken into consideration at <em>every<\/em> facility, public and private.&nbsp; As you know, it is the responsibility of organizations (and people) to take all \u201creasonable measures necessary to prevent activities that could result in harm to other individuals and\/or their property.\u201d&nbsp; We recently saw an initial lawsuit of $27B filed by the survivors of the Uvalde shooting against the school district, law enforcement, and others.&nbsp; I believe organizations and workplaces need to perk up their ears on this and take a closer look at their safety and security plans- I am not sure how long insurance companies are going to accept a half-hearted security plan that is written and put on a shelf, never to be looked at again. Security managers will need to show training (not just showing the original FBI video Run, Hide, Fight) teaching employees a safety and security culture.&nbsp;<br><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item --><\/ul>\n<!-- \/wp:list --><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item -->\n\n<!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li>I have come across<strong> #NeverLetItHappenHere<\/strong> in your social media posts. Can you elaborate?<!-- wp:list -->\n<ul><!-- wp:list-item -->\n<li><strong>#NeverLetItHappenHere is my rallying cry<\/strong>- I believe that you, me, and all of the everyday people need to take the initiative and take responsibility to be aware of our surroundings, aware of other people, and willing to report a concern.&nbsp; Every interview after a shooter incident you hear someone saying, \u201cI never thought it would happen here.\u201d&nbsp; Every one of the shooting events has had some sort of \u201cred flag\u201d pre-incident indicator before the event occurred.&nbsp; If we take ownership of our safety and security, report our concerns, have confidence that action will be taken when we do report, then we can change the narrative.&nbsp; And we need to train according to our capabilities.&nbsp; Not everyone is going to be tactically trained and able to take another person\u2019s life.&nbsp; But we can and should all have \u201cstrategic\u201d training- know how to hide (not under a desk!), knowing how to run (and where!), know how to fight.&nbsp; And all important, take a CPR class, know how to use an AED (and where they are located!), and learn Stop the Bleed.&nbsp; These skills not only help you at your workplace, but in your off-duty life.&nbsp; I believe these skills Save Lives and Make A Difference.<br><br><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item --><\/ul>\n<!-- \/wp:list --><\/li>\n<!-- \/wp:list-item --><\/ol>\n<!-- \/wp:list -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Kim, It has been a fascinating session. 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